Firmware 1.0.346 (minor update to 1.0.365)

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  • newmessagenewmessage Posts: 42Member
    Hello guys, 
    I wanted to ask something here about networkConnection.

    Why'd when I try to use : ConnectivityManager.getNetworkInfo() always returns NULL.
    Using these function(boolean isEthernetAlive() and boolean isWifiAlive())

    1. I Turn On both Wifi and Ethernet
    2. I Turn OFF the Wifi
    3. Start my application
    4. isEthernetAlive will return FALSE
    5. Exit my application
    6. I Turn OFF Ethernet
    7. I Turn ON Ethernet
    8. Start my application
    9. isEthernetAlive will return TRUE

    Here's my Question regarding this : Checking Internet Connection (WIFI / ETHERNET)

    Anyone?


    many thanks
    -sb

  • kazzmirkazzmir Posts: 3Member
    I can't seem to install this firmware update. On the ouya the download gets to about 60% done and then stops. I've tried twice and it seems to stop in the same place each time. I am on a really old firmware, like 1.0.5 or something, so that may have something to do with it.

    Is it possible to download the update to my pc then update the ouya with adb?
  • zouzzzzouzzz Posts: 22Member
    Yes, take http://devs-ouya-tv-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/ota/RC-OUYA-1.0.346-r1_ota.zip , install on SDcard, launch CWM and select "install zip from sdcard"
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  • kazzmirkazzmir Posts: 3Member
    How do you put an SD card in the ouya? I have a dev kit. The only ports this has is power, micro usb, ethernet, usb, and hdmi.
  • zouzzzzouzzz Posts: 22Member
    When the OUYA is recognized by the PC (µUSB  to USB) put the OTA http://devs-ouya-tv-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/ota/RC-OUYA-1.0.346-r1_ota.zip  on the root.
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  • newmessagenewmessage Posts: 42Member
    kazzmir said:
    How do you put an SD card in the ouya? I have a dev kit. The only ports this has is power, micro usb, ethernet, usb, and hdmi.
    You can put it to cmupdater folder on OUYA via FIle Explorer from DDMS

    Btw, how to launch CWM manually?
    many thanks
    -sb

  • zouzzzzouzzz Posts: 22Member
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  • kazzmirkazzmir Posts: 3Member
    Ok this worked. I put RC-1.0.346.zip onto /sdcard. Originally I tried to push it to / but I got an error about a read-only system.

    $ adb push RC-OUYA-1.0.346-r1_ota.zip /sdcard

    Then I downloaded the OneClickRecovery tool and ran the InstallOuyaCWMRecovery.sh script, which worked fine. The ouya rebooted into recovery mode. I connected my keyboard with usb but it didn't work at first. I had to press sysrq+r sysrq+i and then somehow the keyboard worked. Before the sysrq's I did an adb shell and cat /dev/input/event1 and saw some data from the keyboard so I know it was working properly.
  • zouzzzzouzzz Posts: 22Member
    You are wellcome...
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  • PiersPiers Posts: 680Member
    Update to 1.0.365 fixes the issue with the game/app details page sometimes not loading correctly.
  • bobbyjohnson82bobbyjohnson82 Posts: 38Member
    I'm just asking a question to ask not a suggestion or anything like but I've wondered how come ouya just doesn't use the patch system? Cyanogenmod doesn't either and I've been curious as to why? Seems like it would be easier to just do that as well as save some bandwidth.
    Piers said:
    Update to 1.0.365 fixes the issue with the game/app details page sometimes not loading correctly.




  • PiersPiers Posts: 680Member
    @bobbyjohnson82 no problem asking at all.  I don't know the answer really, but strongly suspect that it means we can build out updates in a way that suits us and our customers, whereas using a canned solution means you're stuck with whatever functionality that solution provides.  Just guessing though.
  • arcticdogarcticdog Posts: 235Member
    edited July 2013
    Release management is a pain with patch systems.  And if users go too long without updating, there's a diminishing return.  Patches are akin to differential back-ups.  Every update has to be relative to the update prior to it, and there needs to be a base frame.  

    For example... Have you ever went to Windows update, performed the update, only to discover it just unlocked a bunch of other updates to install?  If you haven't been good about keeping your Windows up to date, you can end up going back to Windows update a half dozen times and 3 reboots later before it indicates you have nothing more to update.

    That's because they use a patch system.  Since Windows is monolithic, they really have no choice but to use this strategy, but the same challenges exist on smaller OS's like Android.

    If there's an emergency and a rollback has to be applied in there somewhere, that has to be carefully managed as well.  Also, customized components by end users can conflict with these differential patches and create problems. If the update fails due to a rogue component or some other system failure, it can be pretty catastrophic and difficult to recover from.  Windows creates a restore point image at the start of each windows update transaction in anticipation of a graceful fall-back for most of those failure cases.  If it can't recover and determine where it is in the patch cycle, then usually the only recourse to get things back on track is to go back to the last stable full frame (which would be some sort of back-up image.. I believe Windows tracks one of those automatically.  Or in the worst case, a full re-install of the OS)

    So.. if you can get away without patching, it's best to do that.  Often times the only way to ensure stability is to wipe and re-establish the base image.

    In OUYA's case, this probably annoys those who've rooted and customized the image because it clears all of the things they've applied.  But then, if the update patched, and the patch conflicted with any of their installed custom components, it might brick the device to the point that would require a base image re-install/factory reset to get it back on track. I imagine that would probably annoy them even more.  But not before they've wasted a lot of time trying to manually fix it and contacting OUYA support :)


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  • bobbyjohnson82bobbyjohnson82 Posts: 38Member
    Makes a lot of sense thanks guys. 
  • GrUnGeMaChInEGrUnGeMaChInE New YorkPosts: 2Member
    @Piers or anyone else, any word yet on moving Ouya games to external hdd?
    I'm growing tired of not having enough space on the internal memory and wanting to buy more full games. I may soon give up on the Ouya because, after all, Ouya Team advertised that Ouya would have this ability right from the start and in fact, release date came and went and this ability is still not yet available. In my eyes Ouya Team falsely advertised this information. Please let me know. Thank you.
  • GrUnGeMaChInEGrUnGeMaChInE New YorkPosts: 2Member
    @Piers nevermind! There has been s post on facebook and twitter today that usb support is coming very soon.
  • PiersPiers Posts: 680Member
    @GrUnGeMaChIne yep we're on it :)
  • fresofreso Posts: 56Member
    Speaking of USB support, it would be very nice to also have built in CIFS support, so we can save our games to our NAS-drives.
  • AzamosAzamos Posts: 52Member
    @freso YES PLEASE! NAS is a wonderful thing.
  • mitchmenghimitchmenghi Posts: 9Member
    Hello support, i still have not bought the ouya but might hold off now because seems like some basic functionality is missing how can you honestly think that 8gb internal memory is enough space for the 400+ games available on OUYA LOL ?????

    Ability to save to external HDD or even better to a network location such as a NAS would be fantastic and is needed in the rapid shortage of drive space.
  • mitchmenghimitchmenghi Posts: 9Member
    BTW what is the ETA for this feature ? If support is 'ON IT' then there must be some sort of ETA right ?
  • PiersPiers Posts: 680Member
    @mitchmenghi it's coming soon, but it is a big feature to add and is taking time. 
  • mitchmenghimitchmenghi Posts: 9Member
    Hello Piers i understand what your saying but... soon is 1 month, 3 months, or a year... approximation would be great. Thanks.
  • PiersPiers Posts: 680Member
    @mitchmenghi can't say, but it is is a reasonable time-frame and not a year or anything along those lines.
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